She is losing alot of respect.
And this really sucks
3 years ago I was having an argument with a friend why paramore is an amazing band(he was stating that they sucked)
Then my friend said "Paramore is a manufactured band made by major record labels to make money" and dam he was right-_- Now I cant argue with that because the two people that were in the band even said it themselves in their blog.
If for some reason Hayley ever reads this I want her to know this
You should have been a solo artist if you cant get along with other people
I agree completely.
It's pretty sad and pathetic
you know what i dont think she should read these. she probably wants to just enjoy her birthday without dealing with all of this shit. and also, if you think she's "losing respect" why is she and the guys really popular now?? i'll continue to support her and josh and zac in whatever they do in the future, no matter what douches like you say.
Oh you do spell check too??XD
Can you do this entire discussion=D
It's "you're".
Grammar is key.
If I give you a clown costume could you wear it??
Because your entertaining me=D
Oh, you have no idea....
But why would I share that with you? It's the truth, anyhow. If I wanted to be funny I would be funny, but I wasn't. I was being blunt.
@Muhahaha Pfft what would she know about taxes??? She's probably 15 she dont pay no taxes
Why should Rachel say something funny? She's saying the truth.
@Rachel well arent you a one trick pony
Can you say something funny??=D
I'm going to say it again, to this person and all who agree with them:
It's people with your intelligence who waste our tax dollars.
@MuHaHaHa^^ I dont know you so I really dont care
@PressureFlip Your the first one on this disscussion to have a legit statement. But hey No doubt (the band hayley looks up to) was able to keep it togethere after their break up (at least for more than a couple of years its been a year and they havent done much=/)
Also Im not saying that Hayley should read "MY" Discussion
Im saying she should read all of them.
and as stated above
If for some reason she gets to mine then
great she should know that
sorry twinky but i don't like you.
i think it was a guy from the swellers? :s
Im too lazy to read the comments, so sorry if i sound repetitive. Hayley can get along with people, if you see on twitter she gets along just fine with jeremy and taylor. they're always hanging out and stuff. This whole hayley vs josh thing is probably more of a personal thing. it was a messy break up, it's not about her not "getting along" with them. It's because they have their own stupid issues. If you read that blog from the guy from the swellers then you will see that JOSH AND ZAC were the ones who didn't get along with people.
My god, it's like two parents getting a divorce. Hayley gets custody of jeremy and taylor and josh gets custody of zac. Now they're vying for custody of the fans. jeez. Give hayley a chance to enjoy xmas/her bday/new years before oberying your desires of another statement. you dont know anything.
that blog is total shit to me. i dont care about it, obviously there would have been other factors about the situation not just hayley and obviously he was alright with it in the beggining. they have their own reasons for leaving, with mostlikely are the blog but like sht its just becasue of haylye
@Lillian here is the blog if you have not read it
http://joshnfarro.blogspot.com/2010/12/josh-and-zacs-exit-statement.html
@Lillian
Of course they change, but so does their music. Listen to All We Know and then straight to BNE. HUGE difference. The musicians grow up along with their music, brining it towards any direction they please and feel represents them accurately.
It's far from the record company's fault for the Farro brothers to leave, but they're certainly responsible for a hell of alot of the pressure resting on their backs. Sure the demanding fans don't help either but you can block out fan mail, you can't ignore the company that signed you and is letting you live this dream you once had.
Blaming anything, let it be the company or the departing members themselves, it won't help anything and I'm not saying it will. But for a fan, trying to decode (lol) what really went on and what the reasoning for this tragic event is important. Will it solve anything? No, and we shouldn't expect it to. But I'd like to attempt figuring out what caused the Farro's to leave behind all they started.
THIS IS SO TRURE...SO SAD..BUT ITS PART OF BEING A BAND
@Vi Yeah, but as people get older, and change, don't you think that they might not love making music as much? I'm sure that most musicians love their music now, but what about in 1 year? 2? 5? And how many do you think will quit their band once they stop loving it? The problem with being famous for your music is the demanding lifestyle. Concerts, dealing with crazy/angry fans, hate, and the list goes on.
And, I'm saying that it's not going to get us very far to try and blame the label. Sure, lets blame them, but is it going to make anybody feel better about the brothers leaving?
@twinky
I made a mistake. It's going to sound like I'm trying to save face, but I really did mean that not many could. I'm sure that there are many people who got discovered without the internet, and made great music.
@everyone
You quoted me wrong people>.<
I never said she is losing "MY" respect
I stil have her poster up on my wall
and come on I still follow her on twitter
I have not thrown away any paramore stuff
She is losing the respect of alot more other people and fans due to the whole blog from josh and zac
Some people are right on this discussion are right
she could care less if turned my back on her its only me
and lets be realistic
what have I achived???
And about hayley reading discussion's I really think she should know what her fans are thinking
like sarah. said "she has alot of faith in her fans. she thanks us, and she doesnt take us for granted"
therefor she should only be interested in our thoughts
@muahaha^^ I never said I was
@UPthewall They are manufactured wanna know why?? Its not the voice its the IMAGE, thats what record companies also gotta sell. Why do you think that the manager only took in Josh and Zac and not the other 2 guys? Now music always comes second(unfortunatly) why do you think Justin beaver is such a hit?? (most of you might be a bit to young to understand this)
@lilly THE BEATLES IS THAT BAND. Garage bands are just a start then they evolve to somthing bigger and if they are actually good then they will start getting better and bigger shows and get signed on. Well that was the old fashioned way of doing it. Very few bands are talented enough to make it that way.
I know ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET MAD AT THIS BUT
it bothers me that paramore did not do it the old fashion way,
that someone just said picked them up and took them straight to the top.
no work no nothing
cosign @violet cullen
i totally agree with this guy down that aways.
alexV
Dude, this is such old news, I don't know what's the point of bringing this back again. Get over it. Paramore is a band, and they sell their music and tour around the world, and that's how they earn their money. That's their job, being musicians. But the good part is that they actually enjoy being musicians, and they love their fans. If Josh and Zac weren't as happy as the rest of Paramore, then it's cool, I'm glad they quit the band if that made them unhappy. Just get over it! And no, Paramore isn't a sell out band, Josh totally exaggerated his speech. That's all!
im kinda confused.....
okay i havent read this dicussion properly...
but why does hayley have to read this. from what ive read it sounds alot like your being a shouvenist pig.
in anyones honest opinion would you give a load if someone said "oh your loosing my respect"
if someone told me that my reply would be "well you never had mine" so maybe thats hayleys
and good on evryone sticking up for hayley. yeah just felt like adding that.
and yes it would make her upset. especially because YOU (the dude that posted this) would once havve been a big fan and she has alot of faith in her fans. she thanks us, and she doesnt take us for granted.
stop being immature and nieve.
@Lillian
But the record company did play a large part in it. No one thing caused the Farro's to leave, it was obviously a combination of events and things, but the company that practically owned their asses had a part to play in it as well.
Labels aren't their to tear bands apart, no, but they are there to make money. They often have all the rights to the band's music and creative freedom. They have a certain idea for the band or artist and they push them in that direction. And if some members don't like the way it's going, they usually don't have the right to change it. They signed a contract, they're in it until they decide to actually quit the whole thing.
And I completely disagree with that. Bands are not made for the money, at least not for the most part they aren't. If someone creates a garage band, do they REALLY think they have a career from that? You'd have to be dumber than a brick wall to make a band simply for the money, most bands barely make it. Even musicians like Paramore aren't filthy rich no matter their somewhat success.
Most bands are made because the members in it love music and want to pursue it, sure money is always a reward but I've never heard of someone making a band, considering it a stable career and making a shit ton of money from it to sustain comfortable life. You obviously sell music to make some sort of lively hood, but it's not what people do for money.
You know what pisses me off? People who are blaming the record company. If it had no use besides tearing apart bands, then it wouldn't exist. You can blame anybody for what happened. Blame Hayley, Josh, the record company, or the guy who Hayley's mom could have married. It's everybody's fault, and nobody's. It's impossible to pin the blame on anybody. So stop trying.
Second, why do you want Hayley to read any of this stuff? I don't know Hayley. Maybe she's the sort of person who would get upset over this, or would just laugh. Do you think that she cares that people are losing respect for her? Maybe, maybe not.
Finally, yes, bands are made to make money. That's why people SELL their music. They might love making it. But, the point is to make money. Do you think that a bunch of kids with crappy equipment could make it REALLY big before youtube? No. They need record companies, and the companies need them.
You might want to know every detail about the band, and what the record company is doing, but I'm here for the music.
Hayley SHOULDN"T read the discussions because it would probably upset her. She DID used to get along with the Farro's obviously, since she dated Josh and befriended he and Zac when they were teenagers, plus she seems to be fine with Jeremy and Taylor.
If they were "manufactured to make money" then Hayley's voice would be total electronic autotune and their lyrics would be about dancing and sex and all those stupid annoying things that seem oddly popular lately. So shut up you asswaffle (that was a reference to Sandy's awesome comment below)
What the fuck!? You lost respect. wow. Why? because they're a manufactured band? right? Hayley won't read this bullshit. Why should she? I'm glad she doesn't! Look at you! Hayley is not perfect. But you are!? right?
i dont think hayley should read the discussion boards because of the negative stuff some people have said about her it would be heartbreaking for her i think to see some of the fans turning against her. after all shes still a person with feelings i think it would affect just about anybody if they were to see negative stuff about them all over the boards but thats just me . i still love her + will support in whatever she does .
She should read the discussions? I think you should get pneumonia. :') But just because we'd like it to happen doesn't mean it will, stop getting your hopes up and realize that what others think of her doesn't matter as long as you know that she's not the awful person people make her out to be.
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