yeahyeah.
In a recent article he said he didn't miss Paramore.
God forbid, he left the band and didn't regret it. To me that just says "I made the right decision and it's benefitting all". What have you got to complain about? Honestly? Paramore have just finished an apparently amazing tour in SA and they're going to be releasing new singles this summer.
Hayley and the guys have been pretty active with their fans since the Farro's departure and Josh has a twitter to let you all know what he's doing. They're both in a new band which HEY = more music and lyrics from Josh and Zac and you're still complaining?
They left, that happened but from here on out you have 2 bands to listen to.
Josh has done nothing wrong. When he wrote the blog it was all about the management and how the band, himself and Zac drifted apart. Them leaving was the most beneficial thing they could have done.
I wish they'd stayed together and were all happy, just like everyone else. But that wasn't the case.
Josh did and still does care about his fans. I have no reason to believe otherwise. So him being constantly attacked for saying things is absurd. Seriously.
I've ranted on this matter now more than I have done repeat topics, I'm not even kidding so I really want this to be the last one.
You don't have to like Novel America. You don't have to agree with what he said in his blog. But to go on and say you don't like him and all the rest of it is completely crap. You don't know him, that much is evident from how quickly you were to turn on him and Zac so don't act like because he's saying something that can be concieved as negative towards Paramore that he's saying they should burn in hell. 'cause he's not.
He's saying what he thinks about it, he's done interviews with MTV, kerrang and probs others. Just getting it out there for each magazine and music source site and then it'll be done. He's just letting people who may not know, know. Because not every one that likes Paramore is active on this site, tumblr or twitter. You know?
Don't hate, apparate!
@Matt,
I didn't say you said that, I just feel that's what he means in his statement. And that right Hayley did want the music to be about him in a Negative way, How could you not write music about someone negative, That's just how it worked out, Ignorance is a great song and I know that it most likely sucks that every night for like 6 months you hear mostly music about you might be the biggest kick in the balls ever, But if you see 3 people agreeing and siding on another persons side and not your own, wouldn't you think that maybe there might be some truth to what everyone is saying?
Hayley got signed because she was offered a contract, And anyways why does it matter if she was just signed, all the albums say Paramore all the T-shirts say paramore everything band related say paramore on it. Hell even the car that they made says paramore on it, Josh even has a bumper sticker with his name on it. he did not get treated like a minority in the group or everything would say "Hayley Williams and the band" on everything. The band has always been Hayley Josh Jeremy Taylor and Zac. I don't really see what the big deal is.
@Herson
When did I say she was thinking about herself?
I was just stating that theyw ere manufactured because the BAND didn't get signed. Hayley did and the rest got told they were good enough to be accepted to be within accosiation with Hayley.
He did help and was a big help to them all :| He wrote most of the music and riffs we love, co wrote most of the lyrics we love. But Hayley wanted lyrics that were about him in a negative way and lyrics that contradicted his faith completely. He fought it for a bit and then just let her have her way.
He just went along with it to stop the arguing even though he was really against it.
@ Matt
If they were friends, then she got signed and then she wanted her friends to come with her, she clearly was not thinking about herself. And that's not what is sounds like in Josh's letter or statement. Josh and Hayley dated only because of the band because zac and Hayley were friends before and wanted Hayley in the band.
And that what I said what a manufactured band is 12 or so hours ago. What makes me angry about this is the fact that he states that he helped write the music too, that he was a big help. But then he says stuff like after a while we would just roll over and let Hayley have her way.
@Herson
Because that has nothing to do with the manufacturing.
They were actually friends. Clearly because Josh and Hayley dated for 3 years, you know?
How the band was made has nothing to do with the band dynamic. He was just letting us know that it wasn't as it sounded. 4 friends in a band that luckily all got signed as equals. Hayley got signed and wanted the rest to be with her. There is a difference.
Think of it this way.
You're doing a big project in school and you get put into random groups where you don't know anybody. You'll eventually start to get to know them and maybe even be friends afterwards. That's manufacturing friendship, just because you resent the idea of being put into it randomly and not with your friends doesn't mean that you absolutely can't be friends with the people within. It's a completely different matter, you know?
If you guys want to know the actual details of the Atlantic records set up:
http://www.hitquarters.com/index.php3?page=intrview/opar/intrview_JeffHa...
I just see as, if paramore was as manufactured as people claim. then why is it that really one person got angry left and the other follows. But the 2 others stayed. Why was the split so uneven? Josh was pissed, zac agreed. They both left but Taylor, Jeremy & Hayley stayed because they still love each other like brother and sisters. If they were manufactured they would have been all equally pissed and just broke up.
They were tested first. I can't remember which but one of them was barely found to be adequete for the band.
They started out as a band but Hayley got signed and was like "hey, can these come too?" and they did get lucky.
It doesn't matter if it's "Hayley Williams band" or "Paramore". When people say Paramore the average person will think of Hayley. Same with The Pretty Reckless, No Doubt, Evanescence and all sorts of other bands like that.
You don't know what it's like so you can't properly judge. I'm trying to be objective about it and I can see why it would be annoying. I really really can.
I don't think it'll be like that. People will listen to Novel American but I can't see it being just Farroness after a while, you know?
Being a manufactured band is when a record label finds people test them out then forms a band. Paramore first started because they were all friends and they played music for fun. The only reason why Hayley's name is on the contract is because she was offered one.
It would be irritating but it not like everyone is saying the band Hayley Williams will be touring the Honda Civic tour, they do say Hayley Williams and the gang or paramore but it's not like that really matters, because in all honesty the only people that matter are the fans. Now that he will be the center of his band he will realize that his band members will have some turmoil because no one really knows who the other band members are, it's the farro brothers.
They are manufactured in a sense.
It was Hayley that they wanted. They came to the agreement to make Paramore to keep Hayley because that's what's Hayley wanted. I had more to say along these lines but my mind has literally gone blank ¬_¬
I'm not saying it's Hayley's fault at all.
Can you not see how irritating it would be to have it be HER name signed to the record. HER that gets all the credit. HER that's most recognised and the rest ignored when Josh and Zac are the reason Paramore came to be? Even slightly?
@ Matt.
Paramore is not a manufactured band, Let be real. Paramore was a band way before the record deals and contracts, Hayley signed the contract on behalf of the band. Josh zac and Hayley went to the same school Taylor was also part of paramore, Remember? Then Jeremy came later. Atlantic records wanted to just sing Hayley but she wanted to get the whole band signed.
Why is it Hayley's fault that she is the center of attention? She has done nothing wrong but be the lead singer and doing what she loves, And that's being in a band. Why would it annoy josh if she did nothing wrong? He didn't so anything wrong either but why be jealous?
Let's be real.
@Herson
The band WAS manufactured.
It started off as Hayley getting signed, she said she wanted a band and got Josh and Zac and Jeremy (her old band mates) involved. That's manufacturing because they all had to be tested to see if they were any good.
He didn't bash the band at all. He bashed the management and the way that Hayley was centre of attention.
Hayley's most known because she's beautiful, she's outgoing, she has a powerful voice, bright red hair and is a hell of a singer.
I can perfectly understand why it would annoy Josh, it kind of annoys me even, but still.
He typed the statement out in an emotional state. He was clearly bothered by it all so had to let it out and I'm glad he did. Did we know that it was just Hayley signed to Atlantic Records before now? No. We thought Paramore was a band, and it is. But don't be thinking that if Hayley wanted she could ditch them all and they'd be stranded elsewhere.
@ThisHeart_ItBeats...
Lol. No arguments intended,
No, Let me go back to when paramore first announced that the farro brothers where going to leave paramore, The band made the first article because of that fake post that was made on tumblr, and people were frantic, Asking why they left and when they left. So to help the fans out and give them real answers they posted the Announcement on here (paramore(dot)net)....
Yeah yeah yeah you know what happend
Then Josh was all about bashing the band in his statement, saying that the band was manufactured even thought that makes absolutely no scenes he said it. He posted his out of anger because he thought Hayley was trying to beat him to the punch of why he left the band.
The way I see it is, That every band is going to have the famous person, or the more popular person. It sucks that happens but that's just how it works. The attention gathers around Hayley more because she is the lead singer. That's how it is in most bands, other then FOB and some other bands that I can't remember for some reason. Fans are going to pick who they like best to the band and they will get more interviews and more collaborations with other musicians, I don't know why it happens.
What will happen is. And I can see it happening is that the popular member of band will be none other then the man himself, Josh Farro. And there will always be tension between group members it's what makes us human, He makes it sound like a bad thing. What makes him the bad guy in the situation is the fact that he attacked the beloved Hayley Williams, People got pissed because she is the popular one in the group. Kinda like High school. You mess with one you mess with all, You know?
And to answer your question, Honesty is not a bad thing but, Being... I don't know how to say this.... Attacking people the way he did is. And that's why people don't like him. I don't hat the guy, he just could have been a little more civil with his Statement, This a lot to read
@Herson
No matter what he wouldve said it would still make people mad. If he had chosen NOT to answer it even wouldve made people mad. Im sure he wasnt forced to do the interview. I bet he wanted to, for his new band, or for whatever reason. This whole situation is probably more caused by how the press expresses things, and cause when you're gonna do an interview with someone like Josh Farro, a Paramore question is expected cause they know it'll catch people's attention and make them more interested in reading it. Which it did, in an unfortunate way.
I dont think what he's posted online is ridiculous. All he's done is be honest with everyone. Isnt that a good thing? Its better than pretending everything is okay. And with so many people attacking him, I cant really blame him for speaking out. He doesnt deserve the hate.
Maybe the remaining Paramore members havent said as much about it, but that's because they have more people supporting them than hating on them. It'll be easier for them to pick themselves up after all this. For the Farros it isnt that easy, especially when everything Josh says makes people even more upset. And all he's done is be honest with his "fans", even if most of them arent so kind in return now.
/end long rant.
Sorry, I'm not exactly directing all this on you to start anything @Herson. Just expressing my opinion on this.
@ThisHeart_ItBeats...
Yeah, that's true but he has control of what he can say to a reporter. It's not like he is forced to do an interview in the first place.
And he has posted some pretty ridiculous things on tumblr and twitter. and I know he has control of that,
But I do see what all of you guys are saying. And hopefully time will tell weather this gets better or not cause to be honest it's really petty.
Sorry if this point has already been brought up, cause I skimmed the comments, but @Herson its not really in Josh's control what the interviewer asked him. If it was supposed to be about Novel American but the interviewer chose to bring up Paramore (which isn't really surprising at all. They want their magazine to create a bunch of hype.) what was Josh supposed to say? Like what @Jonny said.
@ JonnyLilley
Okay then. But paramore had their final interview about the split and then they said they would drop the matter.
But then again paramore has not really had an interview with anyone big at the moment so... only time will tell.
@Jonny
Exactly!
He couldn't have won either way without someone saying SOMETHING negative about him. You know?
@Herson
I'll reply later. cba with much thought right now.
@Herson sometimes saying i don't want to talk about can be worse as it may lead to some people believing that he wants to shut the memory of Paramore out completely.
Also fair enough i haven't heard of the stuff he has put on twitter and tumblr. Sorry.
Thankyou Matt ;) [two words i never thought i'd say]
i was really hoping you'd post something like this
@ Matt.
How are they there? It's not their fault that they now have the most amazing line of shows now that Josh is gone. I see it as a positive for josh to leave and a positive that josh left paramore. It's a positive for josh because he can write music with another band. It's a positive for paramore because they just ignore what Josh says and they have amazing shows and they are even happier with the band and each other.
@JonnyLilley
It's easy to say... "I don't want to talk about it"
they don't hold a gun to his head and say"You're going to answer this question weather you like it or not" and I didn't just say in interviews but he also does it on twitter and tumblr.
@Herson
He's clearly got a lot of gripe over it.
No, you don't see those words directly but they are there.
How is he going to feel about it. He's obviously going to be paranoid about it all because he has just left the band. He's expecting bitching and all that so I wouldn't be suprised if he sees it where there isn't actually any bitching.
@Herson I'll put this nice and simple. You were asking why Josh was still going on about the band he left, the interview with Kerrang was about Novel American but there was always going to be a question on the Paramore situation (Its pretty obvious), so therefore it may seem to you that he is still going on about them.
i agree completely. i also like the last line, its funny. HARRY POTTER FTW!!!!
@ Matt.
I never said that it's not allowed, But it's been diggs a paramore since day 1. You never or rarely see anything on Hayley's Taylor's or Jeremy's twitter saying "BTW this is paramore and now that Josh left it's a freakin party 24/7" There was that one time that they said paramore is better then ever and when they also said that they had a great line of shows that they were proud of. And to be honest that sucks that he feels that the line "Paramore is STILL a band" feels like dig at him, But why does he need to retaliate?
@JonnyLilley
Again... NO FREAKIN DUH!
@Herson
He's just saying what he didn't like it. I don't understand why it's acceptable for Hayley to talk about her day to day life, what clothes she likes and stuff via twitter but for josh to mention something that means something to him isn't allowed?
I'm not saying that Paramore is still a band is a dig at him deliberetly, I'm just saying it probably feels like one to him.
@Paramorefreakster13
Sorry, I want a mature conversation. If I want a conversation with someone like you I'll go to a zoo and speak to a chimp.
@Matt,
When it comes to them saying, Paramore is still a band, I think that is more for the fans. A lot of fans thought that when this first happened paramore broke up, Hell I even thought that paramore broke up when I read paramore's announcement, And that what I think that's about, And on the other hand when they say paramore is better then ever, yeah that might be about josh. I almost hope it's about josh because to be honest with you I think Josh was the Kill joy of the band, He was always upset about something, When I saw him at the Honda Civic Tour, All the meet and greets and pictures and interviews josh was either Not present or he always looked bored. I would have loved to see josh say "We don't want to be a part of paramore, It's not what we wanted to do." And that would be the end of it, If he would have started his own band and said "Hey you guys listen to my new band" That would have been great. But he always is like... "I hated the band I was in.. Oh BTW here's NA"
@Oscar
I lost it but, I am trying to find it again!!!
why r still talking about this?!?!?! u write so much stuff i didnt even wanna read all of it. i dont really know wat ur talking about. soemthing about josh, but wow u need to relax.
@Herson I was doing the "Well...DUH!" to you because if Josh is getting asked about Paramore he will give his opinion.
@Herson Madrid
Where'd he say that? I've been busy lately and haven't really been able to keep up to date with the Paramore situation :x
@Herson
And the ones about "Paramore is still a band" "Paramore is better than ever" and shit like that about not missing them isn't?
Seriously. I think he's entitled to a bit of self esteem out of the amount of bashing he's recieved just for leaving Paramore, you know?
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