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Maybe it wasn't all pretending

  • Maybe it wasn't all pretending
    Brand New Eyes says(Dec 23, 2010)
    Edited on March 30, 2012

    Everyone is confused with Josh's post. He said so many bad things about being part of the "Hayley dream" and all, and it seems like even in the happy moments they were just pretending. I was really scared about that. Thought that Paramore was a band completely different from what we knew all these years, it was horrible.

    But yesterday at night I was reading my BNE and after I read what Josh and Zac said, I changed my mind. It clearly wasn't all pretending, they can't pretend for all this time, you know? They had their troubles in the band but beyond this, they were all friends.

    Here are some passages of Josh's and Zac's thanks

     

    "Josh would like to thank: (...) Zac, you will always be my best friend no matter what. I wouldn't be half  the person that I am without you in my life. (...) Jeremy Davis for always being so easy going and accepting everyone's differences. You killed it on this record. Taylor York, welcome to the band. You are the only guitarist that I would ever want in this band. Hayley, I admire your dedication and hard work for our band. We've been through a lot together and I'm glad we stuck through it. We make a great team. In my mind you will always be one of the greatest singers out there. (...)

     

    "Zac would like to thank: (...) my family - Josh, Jonathan, Isabelle, Dad, Mom, Nate and Callie, for being there for me and supporting me through these past 5 years of touring and living everywhere else but home, thank you all! (...) Josh - I couldn't ask for a better brother and friend helping me through this record. Taylor - you're my best friend and I want to thank you for being there for me and making me laugh. Jeremy - thank you for sharing your food and being a good big brother to me. Hayley - no matter what happens with our band, you'll always be my little sister even though you're older than me. I had the best time making this record, you guys helped me  feel amazing about myself and my playing. Thank you. I love you all so much! (..)

     

    Probably Josh was really upset to write the things that way, because he made it look like wasn't good being there. He didn't remember the good times.

    It proves that they couldn't pretend all this time, they're not that great actors lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ianyHf5em2Q (Ok Josh, as an actor you're a great guitarist. PS: Jeremy is so cute xD)

     

    These photos doesn't look like pretending to me:

     

    Oh this fun time is awesome lol:

     

    You see?

     

    And please, stop judging the Farro's. Of course they thought in the fans when they left. Don't point the finger, or they'll point you the mirror :P

     

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_Brand New Eyes's picture
on December 23, 2010 - 1:38pm

Everyone is confused with Josh's post. He said so many bad things about being part of the "Hayley dream" and all, and it seems like even in the happy moments they were just pretending. I was really scared about that. Thought that Paramore was a band completely different from what we knew all these years, it was horrible.

But yesterday at night I was reading my BNE and after I read what Josh and Zac said, I changed my mind. It clearly wasn't all pretending, they can't pretend for all this time, you know? They had their troubles in the band but beyond this, they were all friends.

Here are some passages of Josh's and Zac's thanks

 

"Josh would like to thank: (...) Zac, you will always be my best friend no matter what. I wouldn't be half  the person that I am without you in my life. (...) Jeremy Davis for always being so easy going and accepting everyone's differences. You killed it on this record. Taylor York, welcome to the band. You are the only guitarist that I would ever want in this band. Hayley, I admire your dedication and hard work for our band. We've been through a lot together and I'm glad we stuck through it. We make a great team. In my mind you will always be one of the greatest singers out there. (...)

 

"Zac would like to thank: (...) my family - Josh, Jonathan, Isabelle, Dad, Mom, Nate and Callie, for being there for me and supporting me through these past 5 years of touring and living everywhere else but home, thank you all! (...) Josh - I couldn't ask for a better brother and friend helping me through this record. Taylor - you're my best friend and I want to thank you for being there for me and making me laugh. Jeremy - thank you for sharing your food and being a good big brother to me. Hayley - no matter what happens with our band, you'll always be my little sister even though you're older than me. I had the best time making this record, you guys helped me  feel amazing about myself and my playing. Thank you. I love you all so much! (..)

 

Probably Josh was really upset to write the things that way, because he made it look like wasn't good being there. He didn't remember the good times.

It proves that they couldn't pretend all this time, they're not that great actors lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ianyHf5em2Q (Ok Josh, as an actor you're a great guitarist. PS: Jeremy is so cute xD)

 

These photos doesn't look like pretending to me:

 

Oh this fun time is awesome lol:

 

You see?

 

And please, stop judging the Farro's. Of course they thought in the fans when they left. Don't point the finger, or they'll point you the mirror :P

 

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ms. blue eyes's picture

i dont think they were pretending, ive seen pics of josh and hayley together, they were(and my guess is that they still are) deeply in love.

_Brand New Eyes's picture

Yeah, Christmas makes things get better
PS:For those who might be wondering, I made this topic for people that thinks that Paramore is over, that's just pretending and all, because there's a lot of ppl on this website who does.

Herson Madrid's picture

Lol. I like that video. I remember watching it when it only had like 56 views.

menameisana's picture

Let's just thank Josh and Zac for saying the truth about their leave, the whole story about Paramore before they two left, of what has the band members experienced through the labels, their managers, or to those people who aren't in favor for Hayley being in a band, especially her parents or her relatives, that cause the brothers to call it quits and go elsewhere. At least we know. They are just being honest with us. They do not intend to belittle or to disgrace Paramore. So for those who are unhappy with his blog, well that's your business. I didn't think a little thing about their statement that it shows they've been just pretending. Josh and Zac just forgot to include the good times. They wanted to be honest with us, of how Paramore was formulated from day one, of how it came to the point of splitting but still stayed strong through their bad times.. No one in the band should be the blame.. Let's all blame the record labels! at Hayley's manager! Lol!

paramonday at six's picture

"Somethin' good needs to fall apart, for somethin' better, to fall together".

:) I love that line.

I agree with everything you've said, especially about Christmas making everything feel better. ;D

crushcrushcrush_13's picture

@Brand New Eyes that made me feel a lot better :) things have a way of sorting themselves out......

_Brand New Eyes's picture

Don't know why but Christmas made me forget completely about Josh and Zac leaving '-' Made me think that "somehow, everything's gonna fall right into place" :)

Morning.'s picture

These photos and nice words put the smile on my face. And I am sad that they left.
it was great great great thing to see them 5...Well...
___
Merry christmas everyone :))

fallenangel99's picture

Will always be a 100% paramore fan, no matter what they do :)

R4R45's picture

They weren't pretending totally. Of course there were some moments where they were having the time of their life, but there was always that thought in the back of their head that being in Paramore wasn't what they wanted anymore.

Lei_5's picture

nice... (bow)!

I really like that Hayley and Josh pic... :)

tashaar's picture

Agreeing to every single word of it :)

_Brand New Eyes's picture

Just wanted to say Merry Christmas xoxo

xxDebbieLovesHayleyxx's picture

love this :)

_Brand New Eyes's picture

@Luke C you're welcome (:

_Brand New Eyes's picture

@jmb3h88 Exactly, I was listening to BNE and the lyrics make ALL the sense right now, the whole story of Paramore (according to Josh's blog, the true Paramore story) is in those lyrics.

Oh I love Playing God so much and I always knew that it was in Hay's pov

Luke C's picture

this was actually really nice and refreshing to see after everything so thanks :')

CAROLINA_29's picture

@jmb3h88, i agree with you, playing god, was in hayley`s point of view.

bOcAj_aHs@pAramOrE081187's picture

i reaLly LikE ds discUssiOn..

jmb3h88's picture

Actually I think 'playing god' was completely from Hayley's point of view. on the blog they said they didn't agree with or like her new lyrics like 'the truth never set me free' because it disagreed with the Bible.
anyone else see the connection???
after all this, I'm listening to Brand New Eyes again, and it kinda all makes sense

CAROLINA_29's picture

it wasn`t a lie, they`re were friends but because of hayley`s family and her manager, they had some issues, but it was not all the time, and like it was getting worse the farros left the band. well it was not their fault, they were too young, just kids, and they grew up in this problems, with people influenciating them, maybe if hayley`s family and her maneger had not try to get her to do solo, they would be so unit, ok, maybe songs like careful, would not be launched, but who cares, it would be not the same but the old paramore that we all love

_Brand New Eyes's picture

Hayley posted something about it all, but it was a couple months ago in LiveJournal. Now I'm confused, because it totally matches with Josh's post. Dunno about ANYTHING anymore. AGAIN :I
http://community.livejournal.com/paramoremusic/10417661.html?thread=3344...

LydiaConspires's picture

@LovelyLabrys

daveygirl said...

"why do the others stay in the band if the managment treats them like this?"

Josh_Farro said...

"daveygirl - because they dont see that they are being masterminded. also they didnt start the band. they joined while the goin was great. theyve always had it easy. so they just dont care."

You're right, Josh is being so forgiving and caring.

@(:iloveyouguys:)
ikr I lol'd too

LovelyLabrys's picture

Again, very well worded statement.

"Don't think bad about Hayley that's not what I want. Just pray for her."

Josh implies four things with this sentence -
* Hayley has behaved badly.
* Hayley needs help
* She is beyond simple help, prayer is her only hope
* I am caring and forgiving person

loveuguys's picture

@Paramuse

omg! "Just pray for her." lmfao!

LydiaConspires's picture

Um okay, reading the comments Josh has made has made me think that even though they might not have been faking early on, things must have been a lot worse than anybody let on.

"Don't think bad about Hayley that's not what I want. Just pray for her."

"I hope so and am praying that we become friends again. But I do know that it wont happen soon."

:|

UpTheWall's picture

Stariiwaters's picture

let me break it down for ya-

-there will be bad times
-there will be good times
-there will be times of neither
-but for zac and josh it has MOSTLY (not meaning all the time!)been
bad times for the past FOUR years.

the bad times over run the good times and you will remember them more clearly than the good memories

tiana.

LovelyLabrys's picture

I don't think that this is a helpful topic to the continuation of the band, at the moment. However, i need to discuss with people who understand, so i will do so and then drop it.

* Regarding 'happy' pics, words, video etc.
Nobody has the very same feeling 24/7. Of course there would be highlights, even at times when things weren't good.

After the 2007 events, there was a definite change in Josh most especially. Many times i have noted the rarity/lack of smiles. How sullen he is. Silent and withdrawn. Going through the motions at gigs.
I mentioned this in here several times and was accused of having a vivid imagination or outright lack of being a true fan. I'm not mentioning this as an '"I told you so" - simply because i have always believed that things weren't repaired after 2007.

I am not sure how much Hayley felt of this. If she was unaware, my heart is filled with sadness for her. The songs, heartfelt lyrics, smiles and touches and nice things she said - she must feel gullible and so humiliated. This is the worst part for me.

purpleroses2012's picture

very true!! but where is Josh's post??

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