I think that the whole thing with Josh and Zac is a shame, but should we really condemn the whole band and all it stands for over it? Yes, it is awkward, and it could have been handled better by all concerned, but it seems that what is left of Paramore needs our support right now, and could we really call ourselves fans if we pick sides?
As far as I'm concerned, my loyalties are with what's rest of Paramore, but Josh and Zac had every right to leave the band on personal issues if that's what they had to do. I'd like to think that if I was in the same position, that I would be as mature and as reserved as Hayley has been, but also put any of the fan's views straight.
I just think we should stay loyal to the music, and take the band as it comes. And, good luck to everyone involved, cos this is really difficult for the fans so imagine what it's like for the band.
@Rach
Okay, that's reassuring. :)
@Luci you're up there too, honey bunch. It's gonna be okay.
@Rach
He's your best friend in the whole wide world? I am hurt, deeply. :)
Bickering? Why would I bicker with Matt? He's my BEST FRIEND IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD, HUH MATT?! (jk ;)
Do you think I care about adding to your comment count? It's all the same. And just so you know, yeah. Mine is way more original. Check it out. Read it. Weep.
It seems that whilst you are both bickering like children over how many comments your discussions got (which i bet are about as original as mine) you are adding to my comment count.
@rach
Lame. Mine got over 500.
;D
Nope. I think I did a hell of a lot better job writing all my points, which is why it has nearly 200 comments. You could have used the search bar and written it there.
This is something we've all heard before. Get over yourself.
Haha, no, you aren't caring for the site at all. You wrote it out of caring for Paramore, not the site. Big difference.
I do have passion for the site. You think you can post whatever you like or think then fine.
You can't say I'm doing more than you are because I'm not. If you don't like it then dont' read it.
It's as simple as.
And you make your assumptions, you do it yourself.
The point is that I don't think it's original, but i liked writing it. yes, maybe there were other discussions that followed the same point, but to me, this one is important because i wrote it. That's all. It could have been about anything and I would be proud of it. And the fact that people are still commenting on it when it's so far down the list of discussions must indicate that it is doing something....whatever that something is. And that's a minor achievment helping people who don't even know anything about me apart from the shit I write on my profile or this to make such a definate judgement of me. Wouldn't you agree?
Why are you proud of this? All you did was make a brand new discussion about something we've heard about a thousand times. We've gotten over it, I think it's your turn. Topics like this are the ones bringing all the drama back, and the fact that it's so repetitive and you actually think it's original makes you look foolish.
Well then please stop assisting me in making a bad impression. And the lack of caring for the site? please. I've wrote this out of caring. I don't need the topic to change the world or the outlook of anybody else but myself. I'm being self- centered in posting this, trying to console myself and feel that i've done something to be proud of, but i'll tell you something. You wanna talk about changing outlooks? and caring? I'll let you know that you're making the outlook of myself and others who read your comments bleaker, and if YOU had any passion for the site, then you wouldn't make people feel like shit about Paramore. And yes, the assumption I've made of you could be wrong, but who made it into that?
There is need for me to have a negative attitude actually. Your lack of caring for this site. If you're passionate about it then you could have written it on another topic, your topic won't change the world, or the outlook of other people any more than those topics that already existed.
Do not make assumptions about me. You've done it twice so far and both times you've been wrong.
Thanks so much for your support :) and fine matthew, do whatever you want. why should i care? I posted this cos I wanted to and i'll keep it on if i want to. There's no need for either of us to have a negative attitude. I just wanted to write it cos i'm passionate about it, and you seem like a very cynical person that would have made negative comment on this just for the sake of it, no matter what was written. I'm on this site to support Paramore, not start fights over how I do it.
I agree with you my dear. I think we should all be real friends and remember why we love them: because of the music. I don't believe the music was a lie. I believe it was the realest part in all of this. Paramore is my band. I love them. I believe they're sincere and until they do something absolutely horrifying and completely against my views, I'm going to remain loyal.
And, even though I don't agree with the way Josh and Zac DELIVERED the truth (because it really did look extremely hostile), I'm glad they delivered nonetheless, even I do think some things were embellished. That's just my opinion though.
P.S. Honey, post what you want because everybody else gets to. If this is how you FEEL, then go for it. If it was really that big of a deal, it would have been taken down already.
There is also a rule that says you should be nice to your fellow forum members, so if you're talking about following the rules you really shouldn't be talking Matthew.
uh.......
"to Hayley and the twins"
....err......twins...?
That's a very selfish way to look at it. Other post? There was many, I've read your exact post but worded slightly different several times. They all say the same thing.
Oh, no. You see I do the exact opposite. I'm now not going to leave this topic until it's either removed or completely forgotten.
So you're saying that I should be able to differentiate between topics by simply their title? So you can tell that "Paramore - Does It Really Matter?" is actually about this topic at hand?
What if I made a topic titled that and it was talking about cheese? "Don't read a book by it's cover".
And I am completely 100% entitled to post my opinion on this topic regardless of whether it's negative or not.
It makes no difference to you? So you don't care what difference it makes to others? That it annoys other users of this site a hell of a lot?
As I said before, a VERY selfish outlook on it.
And clearly what we see as important is different and if you did see the other discussion on this then why click on this one? If you ask me to delete it I'm not going to because I have every right to post it just as you have every right to tell me not to. I didn't want to start a fight, I wanted to show consolation to Hayley and the twins, and I think I've succeeded in that, and it makes no difference to me if there is another discussion.
I'm sorry that you are so affected by this, but i'm not going to delete it. I didn't realise that there was a rule on this, and the other post seemed to be abit biased. I just wanted to write about something that I was passionate about, I didn't realise it was such a big deal. Like I said before, if you think it's a waste of space, don't read it.
http://www.paramore.net/forums/about-this-blog-stuff-to-think-about/
http://www.paramore.net/forums/the-exit-statement/
These should help, post what you said in one of theses please, then delete this. It's a waste of space.
No, the most important thing for anyone to the ability to live. This isn't inhibiting your living at all. This is a forum, which has rules, one of them being NOT to post repeat topics to keep the forum tidy.
So they get overlooked? The fact that myself and 2 others have read and commented on this shows you what exactly? 2 people agreed. You aren't going to get many more than that. You can make your opinion constructive on premade topics, this one is unneccesary.
I comment on as many of the topics on the board as possible, so no, you may not ask because it has nothing to do with you.
No, cos I think that the most important thing about anyone is their freedom to start something new to show something, and that's what I did. I have commented on some of the other discussions actually, but comments can get overlooked and I wanted to feel that I had actually made my opinion constructive. And no offence, but may I ask, what sort of person looks around the site and comments on stuff like this, about stuff like that? Don't read it if you don't want to, it's more for me than you.
Exactly what we should do :)
there are MANY topics on this matter, would it have been beyond your abilities to locate one and comment on that rather than create a whole new one?
Yehh :) when you like a bands music, that's what we have to focus on. The band themselves may be ace, but we can't assume that they're going to be perfect forever, especially when we don't even really know them personally. :)
THANK YOU!! You are absolutely correct :D We shouldnt pick sides, but try to see both sides of the story and emphasize with both Josh and Zac and with what's left of Paramore :)