text edited by Silent_Harmony , thank you very much! .Now people can focus on the real isue wich is more about what kind of people we suport
The Farro Brothers left cause the manager was busting there balls: "Your not a real band, your just hired guns."
So why was that question never asked in the interview?
I saw going around it, the exact comment about the manager's behavior. I didn't see one! Was it there and I missed it?
I don't remember anyone saying 'yes' or 'no' if the manager harassed the guys with that, and if it was true how often did it become subject of discussion?
Why do we care about that?!
Because Hayley said she tried to prove Paramore is a band. We all saw her t-shirts: 'Paramore is a band!'
But if she did try to promote 'Paramore is a band', then why didn't the Farro Brothers stick around? Why Hayley didn't make the manager shut the fuck up?
Was it in front of the guys that she said: "Yes, we are a band", but when the manager was in front of her she would hush and just let the manager to run the show and harass Josh and Zac with: 'You're just hired guns, nothing more.'
I mean, if all five agreed on it, then logically the manager would either shut up or get fired. But instead two major band members left?
On the highlight of there career?
When they were making the most successful selling ticket tour?
Point is: We all got scammed. We only heard parts of the truth.
Just posting this so we don't have illusions that we finally learned the truth. You don't walk away from a band that makes 500-600 thousands dollars or euros per show, just cause some little manager told them that they're hired guns."
specialy when they sacrifice so much the last 2 years
it's like the perfect balance.
@Bobby
I agree. Most of my favourite bands are fronted by female singers.
Flyleaf, Paramore, Evanescence, Versaemerge, Hey Monday, Automatic Loveletter.
The mixture of their soft voices with fast and hard music is quite a fun contrast to listen to.
Yes, music is subjective.
I actually have heard the fixed at zero song, I kinda like that one.
I really like bands with girl singers, it's cool that there are alot of hard rock bands with female singers these days, it didnt used to be that way
@Bobby
Try Fixed At Zero or Fire (Aim Your Arrows High). They're both fun songs.
Mindreader is too.
There doesn't have to be a point at all. To YOU there has to be a point. I like most music. From Bless The Fall and UnderOATH to Justin Bieber and Cheryl Cole.
There are some songs that I know could have been better (Destabalise for instance by Enter Shikari. If you listen to that there's one bit where it could have become incredible, and they lose it. It's quite sad really) but I don't usually judge songs like that.
i watched the past praying for video. very lame video. The girl is real hot and a good singer, but the guitar work is pathetic.
There's got to be that point, where after the second chorus comes a bridge and then you can feel the tension of a wicked guitar solo coming and then it finally comes and the song peaks and the guitar screams and it is complete awesomness, thats my problem with these bands, they are kinda good, but it's like a painting that is not done
ok i'll check that out, thanks
@Bobby
Yeah, that's your opinion.
Why don't you listen to VersaEmerge? they're pretty much just like what you described.
They're changing and becoming more and mature with their music. Trying new things. "rockin" has been done and killed between 1980s and post 2000 wannabe hardcore bands.
I just hope they dont get all soft and gay.
They should start rockin out real hard, and they should get a badass lead guitar player who can shred and will play solos and they should get a drummer who does triples and double base.
Hayley can keep her same style of singing, but it would be great if the music got more rockin.
of course I'm most sure this will not happen
@Matt
I'm on again. But I won't attempt to hold you back this time. Who needs peace after all?
@Shannen
i know, but a peace keeper is a peace keeper.
I'd lol at you if you tried it :')
@BrokenSoulyrics
We don't know the whole truth so we can't know whether or not it would destroy Paramore or not.
I think the truth is out.
And as I said, the manager was something in the past which is why it was mentioned during the first talks about Paramore but not later on. Meaning that the manager was only present/bugging Josh in 2004-2005, not afterwards.
It is better that they left, if they stayed it would have progressed to become even worse, which no one wants.
I do agree though, people suddenly turning on the Farro's have really annoyed me. They should have respected their decision and respected Josh for having the guts to say what he said.
@Bobby
You have no reason to.
Hayley's the same as ever.
@Shannen
We had HeavenlyGerm last night but he went before I could get starting with the lulz :(
This is the single most important issue dealing with paramore right now.
I think it is great somebody wants to talk about it.
the slang word "fan" comes from fanatic.
so a fan being skeptical about the whole thing should not be a suprise to anybody.
I am very skeptical about hayley these days.
I do believe i manage to prove theres things we dont know! Things that realy could explain why the Farros left
My purpose was never to find out the entire trueth because the entire trueth will break hearts! It will hurt Paramore it self and same time its fans!
Trust me! it will hurt everyone if u ever find out why the manager didnt just got fired and instead the Farros left
I only did this cause i got tired seeing people say, is better they left or we dont care or just hate the Farros for no reason
Am a quy i dont realy care for them i like Hayley more! but at list i respect those quyz, show respect they were amazing musicians!
stubid kids that were saying omg Josh or Zac we love u and now they say we hate u we dont care, good riddance! people like that should shut the f*ck up and show respect
I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND THE DISRESPECT 2 EX PARAMORE MEMBERS GET IN THIS SITE
saying that is ok to close this conversation, for me theres nothing left to say! Thank u Matt u had a realy mature saying in this debate it was a pleasure talking with you
@Jim
God forbid, a debate.
If you don't like it then there's an X button you can press which will simply remove you from the conversation. Bai.
@Brokensoulyrics
Yes, they ask that of you. You don't need to know how they formed or any of that. They give you the music, you give them the money. It's a very very fair trade.
Their personal lives and how they formed and their opinion of eachother is all personal. As in, none of your business. You don't NEED to know.
OMG is this still going on?
STOP IT.
yelyahsandy says (6 hours ago)
@Broken
Being a fan is liking their music and going to their concerts, not stalking their personal lives.
they ask from fans to buy there album and not download the songs from youtube
they ask there fans to come to there shows
they ask from there fans support when they nominated for an award to go vote for them and much more thats not needed to be said
so they ask from me money and time and my suport
all i want is to know if they worth it or not
stalking there personal life? did i ask about her family?her bf? what she does all day? what she likes or anything like that? nope! just the trueth so i can learn what kind of person am supporting
@Broken
Being a fan is liking their music and going to their concerts, not stalking their personal lives.
And that wasn't every detail. There is still a small bit of truth left that I have to learn to see what kind of person you are.
i thik we wern't told because music should be about music, that what we are here for after all, we all love the same music that this brilliant band creates, and far too often other parts of the industry gets caught in the way, and we are distracted from the main focus, the main reason why we're here today. ad i believe that why we were not told
yelyahsandy says (8 hours ago)
@BrokenSoul
Is it any of your business? YES i explain why is my besinus, real fan's deserve to know what kind of people they support
U also said 'Why don't you tell me every detail of YOUR career so I can tell what kind of person you are'
scroll down a few msg's u will find the answer in the msgs below
as for the pipe joke, i wish i had! then the world would look just fine and not faked up as it is now
brokenlyrics, yea dude, I'm right there with you. It really does seem like the fame and attention has corrupted hayley in some sort of way....her lyrics on the BNE album are very revealing.
I have mad respect for the farros now because of their decision to leave.
I think it's so funny they quit right when all the teeny boppers were becoming fans.
I'm curious about what kind of music the brothers might create void of hayley...hmmm.
all we knew has fallen.
LMAO
BrokenSouLyrics,
By any chance, did you have a couple hits off that hookah pipe before you posted this discussion?
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@BrokenSoul
Is it any of your business?
Why don't you tell me every detail of YOUR career so I can tell what kind of person you are.
We didn't get scammed. We didn't even need to know this in the first place.
Why are you a fan? I'm one for the music, not prying into their private lives.
i'm saying this in the nicest way: where have you been in the past month??
um, is your question even a question?
u dont need the trueth! fine by me
but am not u! am 24 years old! never before i consider my self a fan for anyone!
paramore is the first and most likely the last!
be a fan and support those people, i did it with all my heart!
point is when u do that,u want the people u support to worth it!
i know they not perfect but it is importan that small part of trueth to learn it!
i dont care what Hayley does every day or who she dates and thinks like that! thats her besinus,but i do care on what kind of person she is, and the litle part that we dont know holds the answer
A typo is accidentally putting an extra letter in a word or leaving one out. A typo is NOT mispelling 54 words in a short paragraph.
Now to answer your question.
Josh said in the beginning it was the manager that ran things. But you have to understand that when he was typing all that out, although he meant it, he was really frustrated and annoyed with Paramore as a whole.
To Hayley Paramore is a band. Although on the contract it is in Hayley's name that Paramore is HERS it doesn't mean that they aren't a band. She can run how she likes. It isn't the Hayley show.
It isn't down to all 5, and you have to remember that all the members were well under 19, Hayley was only 15 or 16 when they got approached so it's not like she knew everything that was going on.
It isn't just about the money why they left. They missed their families, they went on tour for months and months with only a few days in between where they had any down time, and only a week at most when they could go home and see their families. Money is important but when you have it and you're missing your family it's takes president to go home and spend time with them. Josh got married this year for god sake, then spent all summer on the HCT tour, to do Leeds Festival and then tour in Europe. He's hardly had any time at home since he got married.
We don't need the whole truth at all, it's not for us to know. As Hayley said. We got involved when Josh said more than he should have, and that's why everyone's acting like yourself. Let them live their lives and get over this already, it's been over a month for god sake.
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