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i love hayley and miley both i think their both amazing but truth eb told hayley is so much better of a singer and that the truth!!!!! woohoooooo hayley!!!!!!!!!!
i love hayley and miley both i think their both amazing but truth eb told hayley is so much better of a singer and that the truth!!!!! woohoooooo hayley!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, what a comeback. That one's going down in the book of "Insanely Lame Things to Post on the Internet"
I mean, seriously? You go out and say "i think she should be killed.......Haters gonna hate" Then try to patch it up when you called out. And to top it all off, you add my favorite addition of all-
@Para_scot
Seriously?
You judgmental, biggoted, hypocritcal twat.
To be honest, if anyone should be killed (hypothetically of course) then I'd much rather Miley Cyrus locks you in a room, sings all the songs you hate and love and then slowly removed your intestines and strangles you with them.
@Para_Scot
Did you seriously just say Miley Cyrus should be killed?
What the hell is wrong with you? Just because you don't like her as a singer or an actress does NOT give you the right to say she should be killed. You don't even know her to have the right to say something like that.
Can you get anymore ignorant?
There is no comparison. Hayley has faith and good judgement and Miley's a hooker who dances on stage in her underwear.
And yeah, she's famous. Her mistakes are amplified. No one in their right mind would defend someone's bad example just because, what, she's famous? Big woop. Her poor soul is gonna get a boo-boo after dirty pictures. Uh, hello? Of course it is.
I think hate is a big word. I don't respect all the wrong things that miley did these past years, but its not like she has no talent to sing. Hayley does have a better voice then miley. The only thing is miley is an immature star, and she let it get to her head.
You can't possibly say that she is allowed to behave the way she behaves just because she is only 17? I'm 17 and I can still see whats wrong and what's right.
It's my opinion, ignorant or not. I am not going to discuss this further because I feel I have said what I wanted to say.
I am not going to get on half the Paramore community's bad side just because I do not like Miley Cyrus.
So I'm going to stop it here. Everyone is titled to their own opinions, and I have expressed mine, even if you like it or not.
Their voices are different, so aren't comparable. I do think Hayley's voice is more powerful, but I don't think Miley is a bad singer.
I don't think there's any reason to hate Miley. Some people seem to because she was affiliated with Disney, but why is Disney such a bad thing? Loads of little kids love it. I did when I was younger.
And Miley isn't a whore. She's 18. She finished Hannah Montana. She can do whatever the heck she likes.
@Maiken
Obviously, she can sing (just not very well). But, I don't think they only want her for her talent, but for the show she is gonna put up; pole dancing and kissing her crew/dancers on stage. My, my what a rolemodel.
You seen what Rihanna does on stage? Britney? The like? They are also role models for girls. What Miley does is up to her. Just because girls fangirl all over the place about her doesn't mean that she can't be herself and live her life.
You have no idea how difficult it must be to live a celebrity lifestyle. EVERYTHING is about image and you can't even respect that as someone who has the luxury of being away from the limelight. EVERY little mistake, regret or bit of fun is broadcasted and worsened a hundred fold by the media and the haters. YOU are assisting that and you're pretending like you have a right to pass judgement.
Hannah Montana is the role model, not Miley. I honestly have no idea how old she is at the moment but I know she's old enough to make her own decisions, wear what she wants, sing about what she pleases, ect.
It may not seem like the best of choices when you're constantly being followed by the media but she's what, 17? 18? 19? 20? She has the right to make mistakes, fix them, and then fuck up again. Nobody's perfect. (Lol @ the irony) But seriously, there's no way for her not to make mistakes here and there. She'd have to be a complete shut in who doesn't ever go out, date anyone, wear anything scandalous or do anything that being a young adult prompts you to do.
When Miley started Hannah Montanna and published her autobiography-type thing, she wasn't behaving badly. It's not like the minute she started getting famous she was pole dancing and puing "stunts" as you call them. When she first started playing concerts she was performing in glitter and completely appropriate clothes aa Hannah. Like I said many times, she's just trying to break free and move away from Hannah's image.
Yeah, I know you never called her a crazy bitch. I was just addressing that other person as well since I was gonna make the same point.
I agree with you on the fact she is a role model and she needs to behave. I don't really blame her though for straying over the line of good girl and bad girl. Everyone does it, it's just that everyone's watching when she does it.
Anyways, like I said, she's just trying to break free and become a newer, more mature person. As she's gotten older her fans have too. They're not all little 7 year olds.
Of her course she's riding a "fame-train". So is every other actress and musician. Plus, made I had read it wrong but you made it sound like she was gaining fortune, which is untrue.
Go read @Mattrocks's discussion topic.
There was a discussion a few months ago about how Hayley was dancing around in slutty tights. There were those topless twitter pictures of Hayley as well. Hayley has tattoos (which inspire young kids to get them), she uses bad language, and the two sentences above are all negative things regarding Hayley Williams. She has made mistakes too. Everyone just forgives her easily though since this is Paramore.net. This is why I hate this discussion.
@Isabel
I obviously don't know Miley personally, so it was wrong of me to say that i don't like her as a person, BUT I never called her a crazy bitch. What I meant to say was that I don't like the image she is creating for herself.
I do not like her because I don't think she is a proper rolemodel, obviously because of the "mistakes she has done along the way". I mean c'mon, she is a celebrity with thousands of young girls looking up to her, and she acts that way, I just think of that as irresponsible. Being famous has it's price.
"It's publicity. She gains fame."- Exacly, all she's doing is is riding her fame-train!
"1) Miley has written a book that's sold copies
2) She's starred in several seasons of Hannah Montanna
3) She's played concerts
4) She's been in The Last Song"
and why is she making money on this? Because of what I have been stating all along: the bad-girl-making-a-scene image. When she makes a stunt, she gets publicity, and the publicity makes her sell the movies, books, concerts etc.
Obviously, she can sing (just not very well). But, I don't think they only want her for her talent, but for the show she is gonna put up; pole dancing and kissing her crew/dancers on stage. My, my what a rolemodel.
I like how you're judging her, calling her a crazy bitch, and saying you don't like her as a person when you've never met her.
@KarlaColina98
No fucking shit.
She of course has fame because of Disney because they made her. Disney created Hannah Montanna as a television show which Miley auditioned for. She wouldn't of gotten picked for the lead role, been casted in The Last Song, published a book thts sold loads of copies, and released multiple albums if she was talentless.
@Maiken/Parawhore
You have to understand that Miley got famous when she was thirteen or so. She was a child star. As people get older they change. She matured a lot over the 4 or so years she's been famous. It's really hard to go from sweet little Hannh to an edgier, 17 year old Miley. She made mistakes along the way, like the pictures you were referring to. I'm assuming she regrets those, but she was growing up. Everyone learns lessons.
"As far as I see it not even half of Miley's fortune is caused by her music career, but by the way she has acted upon her fame the last couple of years. Pole dancing, racism, guys here and there, risky pictures also."
How does she gain fortune from doing that? It's publicity. She gains fame.
1) Miley has written a book that's sold copies
2) She's starred in several seasons of Hannah Montanna
3) She's played concerts
4) She's been in The Last Song
Those all give her money. It's not like Disney and other companies would keep hiring and paying her if she was talentless.
Miley is a product 100% she is made for 8 years old kids, she dance in a stripper pole and she is also a crazy bitch. I think she just have fame because f her Disney contract not because she have talent in fact her music is horrible.
As far as I see it not even half of Miley's fortune is caused by her music career, but by the way she has acted upon her fame the last couple of years. Pole dancing, racism, guys here and there, risky pictures aso.
The main reason her music is selling is because she has made an image of herself being the bad girl, and now she is earning up to it every day. She gets hired at events because they know she will make a scene.
I can't say she has that much talent eather, and I don't like her as a person. Never have, and I don't think I ever will.
I wouldn't label Miley as a whore. She's 17. She's trying to find herself. Sure, dancing in a bra and underwear is questionable. Like I said though, she's 17. She's not a 13 year old Hannah Montanna.
She makes mistakes, just like you and I. Miley is a mega-celebrity though so everyone gets to hear/read about her mistakes. You can't not respect her for making a mistake.
"hayley is a trillion times better at singing, or at least having a music career than miley :P."
Lol nooooooooooooooo.
Do you know how famous Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montanna is? EVERYONE knows Miley Cyrus. Paramore are famous but they're nothing compared to Miley. You can't say Miley is bad at having a music career when she has shit loads of money. That takes at least a little talent.
Tryyy again.
Also, I would like to introduce you to something called a period. It looks like this- .
It shows the end of a sentence incase you didn't know.
i love hayleys music and her voice but miley can sing as well just not the same stuff i like
I agree.
Para_Scot
Wow, what a comeback. That one's going down in the book of "Insanely Lame Things to Post on the Internet"
I mean, seriously? You go out and say "i think she should be killed.......Haters gonna hate" Then try to patch it up when you called out. And to top it all off, you add my favorite addition of all-
My inestines are still intact, SO THERE!
Beautiful. Spoken by a true MORON!
@Para_scot
I don't like her but, I don't think she should be killed! What did she do to you?
@Para_scot
Seriously?
You judgmental, biggoted, hypocritcal twat.
To be honest, if anyone should be killed (hypothetically of course) then I'd much rather Miley Cyrus locks you in a room, sings all the songs you hate and love and then slowly removed your intestines and strangles you with them.
fucking idiot.
@Para_Scot
Did you seriously just say Miley Cyrus should be killed?
What the hell is wrong with you? Just because you don't like her as a singer or an actress does NOT give you the right to say she should be killed. You don't even know her to have the right to say something like that.
Can you get anymore ignorant?
There is no comparison. Hayley has faith and good judgement and Miley's a hooker who dances on stage in her underwear.
And yeah, she's famous. Her mistakes are amplified. No one in their right mind would defend someone's bad example just because, what, she's famous? Big woop. Her poor soul is gonna get a boo-boo after dirty pictures. Uh, hello? Of course it is.
and
there's 100's of females out there that can sing better than Hayley. Whats your fucking point?
I hate Miley Cyrus's music , I love hayley williams ... you can't really compare them because miley sings pop and hayley sings rock.
Hate Miley Cyrus, Hayley would cream her at anything... Expecially singing! Just statin' facts!
Especially*
I think hate is a big word. I don't respect all the wrong things that miley did these past years, but its not like she has no talent to sing. Hayley does have a better voice then miley. The only thing is miley is an immature star, and she let it get to her head.
You can't possibly say that she is allowed to behave the way she behaves just because she is only 17? I'm 17 and I can still see whats wrong and what's right.
It's my opinion, ignorant or not. I am not going to discuss this further because I feel I have said what I wanted to say.
I am not going to get on half the Paramore community's bad side just because I do not like Miley Cyrus.
So I'm going to stop it here. Everyone is titled to their own opinions, and I have expressed mine, even if you like it or not.
Their voices are different, so aren't comparable. I do think Hayley's voice is more powerful, but I don't think Miley is a bad singer.
I don't think there's any reason to hate Miley. Some people seem to because she was affiliated with Disney, but why is Disney such a bad thing? Loads of little kids love it. I did when I was younger.
And Miley isn't a whore. She's 18. She finished Hannah Montana. She can do whatever the heck she likes.
@Maiken
Obviously, she can sing (just not very well). But, I don't think they only want her for her talent, but for the show she is gonna put up; pole dancing and kissing her crew/dancers on stage. My, my what a rolemodel.
You seen what Rihanna does on stage? Britney? The like? They are also role models for girls. What Miley does is up to her. Just because girls fangirl all over the place about her doesn't mean that she can't be herself and live her life.
You have no idea how difficult it must be to live a celebrity lifestyle. EVERYTHING is about image and you can't even respect that as someone who has the luxury of being away from the limelight. EVERY little mistake, regret or bit of fun is broadcasted and worsened a hundred fold by the media and the haters. YOU are assisting that and you're pretending like you have a right to pass judgement.
You're being ignorant. Stop it.
Hannah Montana is the role model, not Miley. I honestly have no idea how old she is at the moment but I know she's old enough to make her own decisions, wear what she wants, sing about what she pleases, ect.
It may not seem like the best of choices when you're constantly being followed by the media but she's what, 17? 18? 19? 20? She has the right to make mistakes, fix them, and then fuck up again. Nobody's perfect. (Lol @ the irony) But seriously, there's no way for her not to make mistakes here and there. She'd have to be a complete shut in who doesn't ever go out, date anyone, wear anything scandalous or do anything that being a young adult prompts you to do.
@Maiken
One more thing.
When Miley started Hannah Montanna and published her autobiography-type thing, she wasn't behaving badly. It's not like the minute she started getting famous she was pole dancing and puing "stunts" as you call them. When she first started playing concerts she was performing in glitter and completely appropriate clothes aa Hannah. Like I said many times, she's just trying to break free and move away from Hannah's image.
http://www.paramore.net/forums/2d72cd-ad-hominem-or-why-you-shouldnt-hat...
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maybe*
@Maiken
Yeah, I know you never called her a crazy bitch. I was just addressing that other person as well since I was gonna make the same point.
I agree with you on the fact she is a role model and she needs to behave. I don't really blame her though for straying over the line of good girl and bad girl. Everyone does it, it's just that everyone's watching when she does it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndxb7m8SoGQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Would you watch this?
Anyways, like I said, she's just trying to break free and become a newer, more mature person. As she's gotten older her fans have too. They're not all little 7 year olds.
Of her course she's riding a "fame-train". So is every other actress and musician. Plus, made I had read it wrong but you made it sound like she was gaining fortune, which is untrue.
Go read @Mattrocks's discussion topic.
There was a discussion a few months ago about how Hayley was dancing around in slutty tights. There were those topless twitter pictures of Hayley as well. Hayley has tattoos (which inspire young kids to get them), she uses bad language, and the two sentences above are all negative things regarding Hayley Williams. She has made mistakes too. Everyone just forgives her easily though since this is Paramore.net. This is why I hate this discussion.
i love them both they are both beautiful and they are both good singer that`s why i love theme both :)) lol
@Isabel
I obviously don't know Miley personally, so it was wrong of me to say that i don't like her as a person, BUT I never called her a crazy bitch. What I meant to say was that I don't like the image she is creating for herself.
I do not like her because I don't think she is a proper rolemodel, obviously because of the "mistakes she has done along the way". I mean c'mon, she is a celebrity with thousands of young girls looking up to her, and she acts that way, I just think of that as irresponsible. Being famous has it's price.
"It's publicity. She gains fame."- Exacly, all she's doing is is riding her fame-train!
"1) Miley has written a book that's sold copies
2) She's starred in several seasons of Hannah Montanna
3) She's played concerts
4) She's been in The Last Song"
and why is she making money on this? Because of what I have been stating all along: the bad-girl-making-a-scene image. When she makes a stunt, she gets publicity, and the publicity makes her sell the movies, books, concerts etc.
Obviously, she can sing (just not very well). But, I don't think they only want her for her talent, but for the show she is gonna put up; pole dancing and kissing her crew/dancers on stage. My, my what a rolemodel.
@ KarlaColina98 & @Maiken
I like how you're judging her, calling her a crazy bitch, and saying you don't like her as a person when you've never met her.
@KarlaColina98
No fucking shit.
She of course has fame because of Disney because they made her. Disney created Hannah Montanna as a television show which Miley auditioned for. She wouldn't of gotten picked for the lead role, been casted in The Last Song, published a book thts sold loads of copies, and released multiple albums if she was talentless.
@Maiken/Parawhore
You have to understand that Miley got famous when she was thirteen or so. She was a child star. As people get older they change. She matured a lot over the 4 or so years she's been famous. It's really hard to go from sweet little Hannh to an edgier, 17 year old Miley. She made mistakes along the way, like the pictures you were referring to. I'm assuming she regrets those, but she was growing up. Everyone learns lessons.
"As far as I see it not even half of Miley's fortune is caused by her music career, but by the way she has acted upon her fame the last couple of years. Pole dancing, racism, guys here and there, risky pictures also."
How does she gain fortune from doing that? It's publicity. She gains fame.
1) Miley has written a book that's sold copies
2) She's starred in several seasons of Hannah Montanna
3) She's played concerts
4) She's been in The Last Song
Those all give her money. It's not like Disney and other companies would keep hiring and paying her if she was talentless.
Miley is a product 100% she is made for 8 years old kids, she dance in a stripper pole and she is also a crazy bitch. I think she just have fame because f her Disney contract not because she have talent in fact her music is horrible.
@Maiken/Parawhore
You could not say it better girl!
@Isabel
As far as I see it not even half of Miley's fortune is caused by her music career, but by the way she has acted upon her fame the last couple of years. Pole dancing, racism, guys here and there, risky pictures aso.
The main reason her music is selling is because she has made an image of herself being the bad girl, and now she is earning up to it every day. She gets hired at events because they know she will make a scene.
I can't say she has that much talent eather, and I don't like her as a person. Never have, and I don't think I ever will.
I hate Miley alot. Hayley is better in everey aspect
no offence but hayle is totally awesome :Dshe kicks butt!!! and miley well from my point she's just a total whore -_- just my opinion
@Brand New Eyes
I wouldn't label Miley as a whore. She's 17. She's trying to find herself. Sure, dancing in a bra and underwear is questionable. Like I said though, she's 17. She's not a 13 year old Hannah Montanna.
She makes mistakes, just like you and I. Miley is a mega-celebrity though so everyone gets to hear/read about her mistakes. You can't not respect her for making a mistake.
This is such a biased discussion it's hilarious.
@Jo!Anne :D
"hayley is a trillion times better at singing, or at least having a music career than miley :P."
Lol nooooooooooooooo.
Do you know how famous Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montanna is? EVERYONE knows Miley Cyrus. Paramore are famous but they're nothing compared to Miley. You can't say Miley is bad at having a music career when she has shit loads of money. That takes at least a little talent.
Tryyy again.
Also, I would like to introduce you to something called a period. It looks like this- .
It shows the end of a sentence incase you didn't know.
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